Sudbury Soils Study

Public Advisory Committee – Meeting #23

September 20, 2005 – 7:00 p.m.

Koski Centre, Cambrian College

 

 

Attendees:               Nicole Breau             Dick Cowan              John Hogenbirk                   

                                   Gary Hrytsak              Bob Somek               Rubina Nebenionquit            

                                   Carol Zippel

 

Regrets:                   Ersin Abdullah           Darrell Alston            Aino Laamanen        

 

Independent Process Observer:           Franco Mariotti

 
TC Members:           Marc Butler                Stephen Monet          Ido Vettoretti 

Glen Watson

SARA Group:          Chris Wren

 

Chair:                         John Hogenbirk

 

Recorder:                 Carol Zippel

Regrets:                    Julie Sabourin

 

Public (15)


 

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1.0             CALL TO ORDER

 

The meeting was called to order at 7:15 p.m. following dinner.

 

2.0             INTRODUCTIONS

 

Members of the PAC, SARA and TC introduced themselves to the public in attendance.

 

3.0             DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST

 

None

 

4.0             OPEN FORUM (30 min.)

 

There were no questions.

 

5.0             ADDITIONS TO/APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA

 

The agenda was approved as tabled.

 

6.0             REPORT ON QUESTIONS/ISSUES RAISED AT LAST PAC MEETING

 

6.1             Letter to Homer Seguin

 

Chris Wren of the SARA Group addressed the letter to Mr. Seguin stating that his presentation on the HHRA will answer all of Homer’s concerns and questions. The PAC chair asked if the PAC would be receiving a copy of the letter sent to Mr. Seguin. Marc Butler of the TC responded by saying they would but will wait until Homer responded to the letter. It was questioned if Homer was representing himself or a group and that if he made a private submission he should receive a private answer.

 

Action Item: Marc Butler will get permission from Mr. Seguin

to release the letter.

 

7.0             PRESENTATION

 

7.1             Human Health Risk Assessment for the City of Greater Sudbury

Understanding the Results

                               

Chris Wren provided a presentation on the Human Health Risk Assessment. He reviewed what a human health risk assessment is and isn’t; the focus of the study; listed the receptor groups and explained why the female toddler was considered the most sensitive group; the routes of exposure; listed the receptor characteristics; the Sudbury specific data being used; identified the risks and what does risk mean; potential soil intervention levels by chemical and community and where we are now in the process.

 

He indicated the final report will be thousands of pages in length but a 20 to 30 page executive summary, in laymen’s terms, will be developed for the public. All versions will be available in local libraries and the reader friendly version will be available on the website.

 

A question from the audience was raised regarding air monitor testing and if the companies knew when the monitors were being tested. It was responded by indicating that Inco tests for S02 daily and dust particulates every six days. The sites for the monitors were not randomly chosen and Windy Lake Provincial Park was used as the reference site.

 

A question from the audience was raised concerning risk and what it meant. Franco Mariotti, the Independent Process Observer, asked if there was a risk for cancer and what the next step is. The TC responded by saying that information from the study could go to the Sudbury & District Health Unit and an investigation of hospital records and other statistical/health information by epidemiologists could be initiated if the Medical Officer of Health deemed this as necessary. This can also be done prior to the study being completed if it was determined that certain areas have a higher risk. Chris Wren reiterated that if there was an immediate risk the appropriate authorities and the community would be notified.

 

A question from the audience was raised concerning who determines what an acceptable risk is. The response to the audience was that this is the responsibility of the TC.

 

A question from the audience was raised concerning who performs the risk assessments and peer reviews. It was noted that the risk assessments are done by SARA and the peer review will be completed by TERA.

 

The PAC asked if cadmium was added as a COC to the ERA and why not include it in the HHRA as hunters eat moose and deer. Chris Wren noted that its inclusion was based on MOE soil guidelines. The soil pH in the City is above five and in the natural environment it is below five. The MNR moose and deer advisory include the entire province not just the Sudbury area.

                Action item: Chris Wren will email his presentation to the PAC.

 

8.0             APPROVAL OF MINUTES

8.1             Minutes of Meeting #22 – June 21, 2005

 

13-2005          Moved by Somek – Hrytsak: That the minutes of meeting #22 dated June 21, 2005 be approved.                             CARRIED

 

9.0             BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES

 

There was no other business arising from the minutes.

 

10.0         NEW BUSINESS

 

There was no new business at this time.

 

11.0         TC MEETINGS

 

11.1         TC Key Progress and Decision Summary #43 – June 9, 2005

11.2         TC Key Progress and Decision Summary #44 – August 11, 2005

 

These are available on the website.

 

12.0         ADDENDUM

 

12.1    Topic of Discussion at the next PAC meeting November 15th

           

It was decided that the ERA would be the next topic of discussion and the computer model would be presented early in the New Year.

 

12.2         Letter to H. Seguin

 

The Chair requested clarification on the letter to Homer Seguin. Gary Hrytsak, from the PAC, will call Homer and ask if he objects to his letter being released to the public.  There is an expectation that the letter will become public but it is also important that Homer see the letter first.

 

 

 

13.0         NEXT MEETING

 

The next meeting is scheduled for November 15, 2005 – Gold Room, Science North

 

14.0         FOLLOW UP TO PUBLIC SSESSION

 

An audience member reiterated her understanding of the disconnect between the HHRA and the ERA.

 

15.0         ADJOURNMENT

 

The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.

 

 

 

 

            _________________________                ________________________

            Chair, John Hogenbirk                                 Recorder, Carol Zipple

 

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