Sudbury Soils Study

Public Advisory Committee – Meeting #36

November 25, 2008 – 7:00 p.m.

Council Chambers, Tom Davies Square

 

 

Attendees:                Adam Cecchetto      Dick Cowan              John Hogenbirk      

Gary Hrytsak             Aino Laamanen       Paula Takats                       

Carol Zippel                         

 

Regrets:                    Darrell Alston           Ersin Abdullah         Nicole Breau

Whitefish Lake First Nations Representative

Independent Process Observer:            Franco Mariotti

 

                                   

TC WG in Attendance:       Marc Butler                Max Kasper               Glen Watson

Ido Vettoretti

 

Chair:                         John Hogenbirk

 

Recorder:                 Julie Sabourin

 

Public (10)

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JOHN HOGENBIRK PRESIDING

 

1.0      CALL TO ORDER

 

The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. following dinner. 

 

1.1      Resignation

 

The group were informed that Bob Somek has submitted his resignation with regret as he has moved to Quebec.

 

2.0      INTRODUCTIONS

 

Members of the PAC and TC Working Group introduced themselves to the public in attendance.

 

3.0      DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST

 

None.

 

4.0      OPEN FORUM (30 min.)

 

Rick Grylls, President of the CAW Mine Mill Local 598, requested an opportunity to address the PAC on behalf of the Community Committee on the Sudbury Soils Study and to comment on items attributed to the community committee in the media recently.  He offered a thank you to the PAC for the ongoing participation in the SSS process and expressed interest in continuing to move forward on the soils study.  He stated that part of the mandate of the community committee was to look at questions that in the committeeÕs opinion, have yet to be answered and other questions that were not fully addressed in the HHRA report.  He then submitted three reports to the PAC as follows:

 

1.          Open Submission to the SARA Group Regarding the Human Health Risk Assessment on Behalf of the Community Committee on the Sudbury Soils Study – October 31, 2008

 

2.          Presentation on the Sudbury Soils Study, NOAMI Workshop – Vancouver, November 2008.  Title: Relations of RiskÕs Definition and (Potential) Definitional Struggles: The Sudbury Soils Study, Francois Depelteau

 

3.          An Open Letter to Local Food Producers and Gardeners from the Community Committee on the Sudbury Soils Study – November 11, 2008

 

Mr. Grylls went on to say that the community committee wanted to move forward positively and wants more groups to assist in that goal.  He also indicated there would be more information meetings as the community committee moves forward.

 

A question was asked as to why the community committeeÕs name and website was so similar to that of the SSS study given the potential to confuse the public.  Mr. Grylls responded that he recognized how it would be confusing and will bring this issue back to the community committee for discussion and decision.

 

5.0      ADDITIONS TO/APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA

 

There were no changes to the agenda.

 

6.0      REPORT ON QUESTIONS/ISSUES RAISED AT LAST PAC MEETING

 

There were none tabled.

 

7.0      APPROVAL OF MINUTES

 

7.1       Minutes of Meeting #35 – September 16, 2008

7-2008           Moved by –Cowan - Takats: That the minutes of meeting #35 dated September 16, 2008 be approved.                         CARRIED

 

8.0      BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES

 

8.1       PAC Material on SSS Website

 

Upon recommendations by the PAC, numerous changes were made to the website to correct and/or update the information located on the PAC site of the webpage.

ACTION: Dick and Paula to follow up to ensure completion of project.

 

 

            8.2      Potential Comments and Process on PAC Role for SSS

 

A decision has yet to be made by the PAC to determine the method/vehicle/format of a submission by the PAC regarding the HHRA and subsequently the ERA.  It was agreed further discussion was required by the PAC which then may suggest an avenue to take.

ACTION: Carol to brainstorm list of ideas/comments and circulate to rest of PAC.

ACTION: John and Paula to develop history and role of PAC for inclusion.

 

9.0      NEW BUSINESS

 

There was no new business to discuss.

 

10.0    TC MEETINGS

 

10.1    Meeting to be held December 4, 2008

 

It was noted that a venue has not been decided as yet for the above meeting.  The question was raised as to the reason a number of the TC meetings has been cancelled. It was reported that technical sessions has been held and reports are being completed by the SARA Group.  As well, it was felt not to be fiscally responsible to bring several of the members up from Toronto for a few housekeeping agenda items.

 

The PAC requested that when a TC meeting is cancelled, that this be noted on the website and the reason for cancellation recorded on the next Key Progress & Decision Summary Report for the information of the public.

 

11.0    PRESENTATION

 

Working Group member Marc Butler of Xstrata Nickel presented on the nature and number of public submissions and questions received during the Human Health Risk Assessment (HHRA) public commentary period.  In response to a question raised by the audience, the WG noted that it is expected that submissions made by the public will be reviewed and answered by Christmas and these will be appended to the final HHRA report.

 

There were several questions and suggestions made by members of the audience to which the PAC and TC replied.  Questions were asked about the risk assessment process, including the role of the PAC, as well as the results and context of the HHRA.  Other questions were asked about on-going and future risk management activities.  Some of the public indicated that they felt intimidated to ask questions of the committee.  In response it was noted that informing and engaging members of the public in discussion about the particulars of the HHRA and ERA is an issue that the PAC and TC have endeavoured to resolve since the beginning of the study.  Over the years, a variety of venues and opportunities have been provided so that members of the public can come forward with their questions and concerns.  Suggestions as to other ways to engage the public are welcomed by both the PAC and the TC. 

 

 

12.0    ADDENDUM

 

There were no addendum items to discuss.

 

13.0    NEXT PAC MEETING

 

The next meeting will be held January 20, 2009 in Room C-11 Tom Davies Square.

 

14.0    FOLLOW UP TO PUBLIC SESSION

 

There was no additional comment or question from the public.

 

15.0    ADJOURNMENT

 

The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.

 

 

            _________________________              ________________________

            Chair, John Hogenbirk                               Recorder, Julie Sabourin

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